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Re: AGM - George Murphy - 13-08-2014
But - crucially - not for a non-FIDE rated event, and it is that distinction that is causing difficulties. Motion1 needs to tweaked to clarify this point.
Re: AGM - robin moore - 13-08-2014
Does the motion actually have any effect to non-Fide rated tournaments in Scotland? My understanding is that it does not and Stevie Hilton is in the process of altering the wording to clarify that the motion is only a guide and is not enforceable. Have I got that right?
Re: AGM - David Deary - 13-08-2014
Andy Howie Wrote:Just been handed the minutes from the Commission for the Disabled. 17. Mr Geurt Gijssen (rules commission) reported the newly implemented regulations for disabled players were not just guidelines but they are clear requirements for integration of disabled players. Mr Ashot Seconded it.
Quite clear for a FIDE event. They must be implemented.
Geurt Gijssen is an absolute legend.
See his articles on Chess Café: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.chesscafe.com/geurt/geurt.htm">http://www.chesscafe.com/geurt/geurt.htm</a><!-- m -->:
A staple for any good Arbiter and I would advise any players who are interested in the laws to read it and even those who aren’t it would improve their understanding.
If Geurt supported these regulations so do I! :-bd
Re: AGM - StevieHilton - 13-08-2014
Adam Bremner Wrote:A lot of interest in this motion!
Can I just get something clarified Steve, ideally with a straight yes or no. If the motion goes through, would Edinburgh Chess Club be able to use their premises to hold open events such as Winter Chess (lower sections) and the Elite Armageddon?
If yes, then great. If no, then surely you can appreciate a word change from must to should. These events can only take place because the venue is privately owned, and the hosting of them is in the interest of all chess players in Scotland. I am sure you wouldn't want these events to fold, especially when there has never been an issue in the past regarding access. Perhaps the way round it is that any new venues going forward must comply, but existing venues should be allowed to continue under the proviso they make every reasonable effort to accommodate disabled players, as is currently the case.
Adam,
There is nothing to stop Edinburgh CC holding these events, but unless alternative supervised accommodation is found for those who need it then it cannot be FIDE rated.
Re: AGM - robin moore - 13-08-2014
Stevie,
So I assume that all non-Fide rated events in Scotland are not affected by the motion. The motion is only a guide and is not enforceable. Is that correct?
Re: AGM - StevieHilton - 13-08-2014
robin moore Wrote:Stevie,
So I assume that all non-Fide rated events in Scotland are not affected by the motion. The motion is only a guide and is not enforceable. Is that correct?
The word is guidelines. It is entirely up to CS how to deal with any problems arising. This is only formalising what is already happening in practice.
I cannot be any clearer than that
Re: AGM - robin moore - 13-08-2014
Stevie,
Is your motion enforceable in non-Fide events played in Scotland? Like Adam in previous posts a straight yes/no answer would suffice.
Re: AGM - StevieHilton - 13-08-2014
Andrew McHarg Wrote:Stevie, your responses are as enigmatic as the motion. Can you let us know in plain English what you're trying to achieve out of:
a) A set of guidelines to encourage the inclusion of disabled players.
- OR -
b) A set of rules to enforce the inclusion of disabled players.
- ? -
Currently, as a matter of fact, your motion is neither.
Andrew,
My motion is clear it is to help the disabled. I do everything I can to encourage their participation in tournaments. This motion will help. With due respect, my answers are consistent. What objection do you have to what is already happening in practice, being put down in writing.
Re: AGM - StevieHilton - 13-08-2014
robin moore Wrote:Stevie,
Is your motion enforceable in non-Fide events played in Scotland? Like Adam in previous posts a straight yes/no answer would suffice.
Robin,
Read my answer it is up to CS to decide
Re: AGM - robin moore - 13-08-2014
I will try again to the elusive Mr Hilton....
Stevie, If it's a non -Fide event played in Scotland, is your motion (if passed) enforceable?