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Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Alex Gillies - 12-09-2016 Adam Bremner Wrote:Thanks for the tournament and congratulations to Alex for winning it. Hopefully more people make it next year.Just off the phone to Gary just as I was pressing send in an email to ask that he check the tiebreak,Gary confirmed tiebreak was wrong , well done Adam on your first open win ! Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Gary McPheator - 13-09-2016 All affected players notified now, the revised prize winners for the Viking Open: 1st CM Adam Bremner 4.5/5 (£250 & Trophy) 2nd Alex Gillies 4.5/5 (Trophy) 3rd Alan Grant 4/5 (Trophy) 1st Grading Prize (Rank1-4) Alan Grant 4/5 (£100) 2nd Grading Prize (Rank 5-18) Alex Gillies 4.5/5 (£100) 3rd Grading Prize (Rank 20-33) Lukah Connolly Sams 3/5 (£100) Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Gary McPheator - 30-09-2016 We have decided to move the Largs Viking Chess Congress to a less congested part of the season. The next one will take place on 23rd-25th of June, which will be held at the same time as the Largs Live Festival. I am also pleased to announce that there will be an addition to the chess calendar, the Stirling Chess Congress, which will be held 28th-30th of April. Details of both events will follow in the next few weeks. Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Andy Howie - 30-09-2016 Excellent! Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Alex Gillies - 16-10-2016 Just like to acknowledge and thank Adam for splitting the prize money, when he did not have to. I used to think and just accept the tie break systems we use are fair. I now have doubts on them. It takes a big differential in prize money to highlight the randomness and unfairness. You can only beat who is in front of you and if you win all your games : by default this inherently favours the higher graded player as they will normally play higher graded opponents. This affects TPR and sonneborne-berger, although the later adds to the randomness as its more about the opponents opponents and/or random last round draws and byes often on the bottom boards. Where time allows for titles and trophies I favour 5 minute play offs. If anyone also want to play for the prizemoney that's between the players involved. For me I think prizemoney should be shared. Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - andyburnett - 16-10-2016 Alex Gillies Wrote:Just like to acknowledge and thank Adam for splitting the prize money, when he did not have to. I totally agree. In Czech they always apportion prizemoney according to tie-breaks. 2 years ago I played 3 IM's (all draws) and 1 GM ( a win!) and lost out on 1st place to an IM rated 200 points above me because his first 3 rounds were played against higher (and better scoring) opposition This has happened several times to me over here. If there must be a tiebreak it should be based on +/- difference between TPR and rating (unless there's a problem with that I haven't spotted?) Re: Largs Viking Chess Congress - Andrew Greet - 17-10-2016 andyburnett Wrote:If there must be a tiebreak it should be based on +/- difference between TPR and rating (unless there's a problem with that I haven't spotted?) What you've suggested, Andy, would be a sensible way (though not the only way) to determine a rating prize; but if you're talking about deciding first prize (or some other 'absolute' prize in a tournament), then it should be all about the absolute performance rather than performance relative to one's rating. That said, I agree with the overall point that money prizes should generally not be decided via tie-break in the first place - unless it's a play-off where the players have the opportunity to determine their outcome. For most events though, I think that by far the fairest way of doing things is simply to share the prize money in the event of a tie, and only use a tie-breaker for things like trophies and official titles. |