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ECF conversion? - Graham Kerr - 02-02-2012

I'm fairly sure there was a thread on this topic before, but i can't seem to find it.
does anyone know what the current conversion is for CS to ECF grades?
TIA


Re: ECF conversion? - Derek Howie - 02-02-2012

ECF *10+180 = CS

http://www.chessscotland.com/grading/outside.htm#ECF


Re: ECF conversion? - Graham Kerr - 02-02-2012

Cheers =) knew i'd seen it here somewhere


Re: ECF conversion? - Phil Thomas - 02-02-2012

Unfortunately if you go to the ECF grading page you get these formulae which gives a different answer to the CS Site (*10 + 180)


ECF x 8 + 650 = FIDE
(FIDE – 650) / 8 = ECF

ECF x 8 + 600 = National Elo
(National Elo – 600) / 8 = ECF

So 178 ECF on the CS site converts to 1958
and on the ECF site the same grade converts to 2024 in CS units or if you prefer 2074 FIDE.

Don't assume that Tournament directors in England will take their formula from the CS site. If playing south of the border you may end up in a higher section than you predicted.


Re: ECF conversion? - Graham Kerr - 02-02-2012

thanks for the warning. perhaps it might be best to check with them first which conversion they use.


Re: ECF conversion? - robin moore - 02-02-2012

Phil is spot on here. If you play in England and have an ECF grade the tournament organiser will probably use this. After that, it's a complete lottery which "conversion formula" they use depending on which tournament and section you play in.

Robin.


Re: ECF conversion? - Andrew McHarg - 08-02-2012

Perhaps we should contact the ECF to get this rectified. It's completely stupid that both federations use different conversion formulas for the same thing. =)


Re: ECF conversion? - Andy Howie - 11-02-2012

They are not interested, in fact they were bemused that we changed ours in the first place


Re: ECF conversion? - Andy Howie - 11-02-2012

Phil Thomas Wrote:Unfortunately if you go to the ECF grading page you get these formulae which gives a different answer to the CS Site (*10 + 180)


ECF x 8 + 650 = FIDE
(FIDE – 650) / 8 = ECF

ECF x 8 + 600 = National Elo
(National Elo – 600) / 8 = ECF

So 178 ECF on the CS site converts to 1958
and on the ECF site the same grade converts to 2024 in CS units or if you prefer 2074 FIDE.

Don't assume that Tournament directors in England will take their formula from the CS site. If playing south of the border you may end up in a higher section than you predicted.

Other way around Phil, you end up in a lower tournament. 1400 CS = 100 ECF old money or 122 New money


Re: ECF conversion? - Andrew McHarg - 13-02-2012

In this case we should all just go down south and win all their events and grading prizes. :U