07-07-2015, 10:51 AM
I do find it interesting to see the argument that since actions by CS affect u16 juniors they should have a vote being put forward. I appreciate that this is a valid position to take but I would ask those that support that view whether they would have supported giving the vote to u16 in the Scottish independence vote, in the recent general election, or the Greek referendum?
Is the argument about what the age limit is (18, 16, 14 ..., 2) or do those that object to the u16 limit suggest that no limit should apply and that a 6 month old has the capacity to make a reasoned decision?
Clearly not you shout - the point being that guardian gets their vote and votes on their behalf. However one is not then getting the view of a junior being expressed rather the view of an adult regarding the issue affecting the junior. If that guardian felt strongly on the matter they could join CS in their own right and cast a vote and thus they are not excluded from having their say and so having a age limit is not undemocratic.
I would suggest that it is undemocratic for someone to have two votes simply because they have a child.
I stopped attending AGMs because the use of block votes made up of harvested junior proxies made debate and voting somewhat irrelevant. I am not suggesting that all such junior proxies were blindly given, but most I suspect will be.
Is the argument about what the age limit is (18, 16, 14 ..., 2) or do those that object to the u16 limit suggest that no limit should apply and that a 6 month old has the capacity to make a reasoned decision?
Clearly not you shout - the point being that guardian gets their vote and votes on their behalf. However one is not then getting the view of a junior being expressed rather the view of an adult regarding the issue affecting the junior. If that guardian felt strongly on the matter they could join CS in their own right and cast a vote and thus they are not excluded from having their say and so having a age limit is not undemocratic.
I would suggest that it is undemocratic for someone to have two votes simply because they have a child.
I stopped attending AGMs because the use of block votes made up of harvested junior proxies made debate and voting somewhat irrelevant. I am not suggesting that all such junior proxies were blindly given, but most I suspect will be.