New constitution

[Andy Howie]

It’s worth pointing out to casual readers that many of these posts have concerned the flat and personally rather hostile denial on the part of both CS/CWP that on the eligibility section there was an omission to check the proxy votes! And the coyness over the CWP input to the minute on eligibility that is under dispute.

You are right Dick, it was indeed you who declined the CWP role (I didn’t say otherwise), after criticism from the floor of the involvement being offered by Hanish in this way. You said something like “well I won’t, then”. This was quite correct response on your part - please note that in mentioning this I was only drawing attention to the unusual choice of minute secretary (not announced in advance) as Hamish’s first choice for the CWP, and Derek’s first choice too.

Straight answers would have made this thread short but you and others who are in CS management continue to denigrate legitimate questions and responses (indeed you adopted a wounded posture even before the minutes were questioned, a cue picked up by Andy Howie who also ‘despairs’ and attributes blame to the questioners despite admitting not paying attention.
No conspiracy theory is necessary (but thanks anyway) - it’s widely recognized that impartiality is important in minutes of meetings. It should not be necessary to repeatedly point out that things like counting the votes cast actually matters, but it has been necessary!

Perhaps it’s coincidental, but allowing the side of a debate that is close to your apparent connections to write the minute is not impartial. Neither is secrecy and refusing normal queries, nor is rounding on critics as a response.

No animosity from me either Dick – as I think you’ll find if you look back. Maybe I’m being too traditionalist, but casual members might want someone to question protocols that have built-in bias and procedures that have been flouted.

Its wasn't Hamish's choice. Dick offered given I was tied up doing the Scottish. i gratefully accepted knowing how much work I was doing on a daily basis there. My point still remains unanswered. Did anyone actually take the time to contact Dick privately or did we all stampede onto the noticeboard to pick faults? I suspect it is the latter and that is what I have a beef about. The minutes are draft until approved at the next meeting. That means we can change them.

So I made a mistake over my recollection of the meeting. Sue me. I am human and the meeting took place possibly at the worst possible time for me. With Alex being unwell, and having to do the live boards myself on top of all the other duties needed for the Scottish, I can be forgiven for not remembering everything in the exact clarity that seems to be demanded here.