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Hi Ian
Can we hear from Andy and Hamish - Or are you speaking for them?
You say
“The SGM deserves a full day to itself”
Surely not. This is a continuation of the SGM and at the start of the first part (which was supposed to be the whole meeting) it was announced that it would be two hours.
“…given the potential carry on regarding the voting e.g what happens to someone who proxied at the first meeting but rurns up at the second what happaens to the original proxy votes etc”
Normally anyone who proxies and turns up just votes and their proxy is cancelled. No carry-on is necessary.
“…plus the timescale required to finish the SGM and then start the AGM makes having the SGM on the same day an issue.”
Well again, Hamish considered the whole meeting could take place in two hours. The tail-end must take less.
“I think the best thing is have an SGM either AS A CONTINUATION or as a limited reboot of the SGM in the autumn after open debate”
According to the minute discussion at the continuation SGM “would be confined to motions already proposed but not yet considered.”
“Lets face it , the new constitution wont be in place at least this year so thefoot on the accelarator can be relaxed a wee bit to get as much people on board as possible. The is from someone who passionately wants the constitution in place with its jobs decriptions and operating procedures in place. There has been a wonderful debate so far in this forum , long may it continue with positive input all round. Afew extra months debating the SGM wont do anyone any harm”
Thanks for these thoughts Ian - but as it’s totally opposite of what has been said before can you please obtain a firm statement from Hamish or Andy? The SGM needs to be announced by Saturday anway!
Cheers
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yes Walter
I'm only expressing a personal opinion on the forum. I'm sure everyone on the CWP knows my opinion , I appreciate your priorities aren't necessarily the same as mine , which is why healthy debate on the forum is so important. I don't think we're too far apart on the importance of the constitution
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AGM proposal - clarification and modification
More than one person has interpreted one part of my AGM motion on eligibility as implying that CS membership is to be required before a FIDE SCO code is allocated. This was not the intention - which was only that the three requirements numbered (1),(ii) and (iii) are built in to the CS SCO code not the CS membership (which would have unwanted ramifications for domestic FIDE rated events).
To make this clear, at the AGM I will suggest a modification to the wording, for example (highlighted in bold):
AGM Proposal on eligibility:
To be eligible to compete for any Scottish individual national championship title (excluding primary school events), or to be eligible to represent Scotland in any international competition a person must be a member of Chess Scotland and in addition must meet at least one of the prevailing eligibility requirements relating to
(i) birth - i.e. be born in Scotland,
(ii) bloodline – i.e. have one parent born in Scotland (or grandparent if so determined by a vote of CS members), or
(iii) residence - i.e. have permanently lived in Scotland for the requisite number of years [currently 2].
The requirements (i) to (iii) shall be built into Chess Scotland’s rules for eligibility for national Championships and rules for eligibility for international selection, and reflected in future Operating Procedures that relate to eligibility and the allocation of future FIDE ‘SCO’ registration codes. The criteria used and/or future Operating Procedures shall also deal with further parameters of these eligibility requirements, such as any differences that are appropriate in determining the eligibility of juniors.
For international selection, additional criteria may be set by the tournament organisers concerned (including age and rating limits). [END]
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4 hours for an AGM.......is there a 3 hour lunch break as part of it?
Can we not have a lightning version with all moves still recorded?