Interesting Position

[Andy Howie]

Phil

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..Ke6 Kf8 Ng5 Takes a while, has to be at least 20 moves

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Unless I missed something?

[Phil Thomas]

Phil

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..Ke6 Kf8 Ng5 Takes a while, has to be at least 20 moves

I see it now -Kf8 will prolong the game beyond 7 further moves but it is equivalent to resigning. Instead of Ng5 white just plays Kf6 picks up the h6 pawn and wins quickly in 20+ moves.

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[Andy Howie]

Oh good, was worried I had it wrong

[Jonathan Livingstone]

Looked at this for ages completely baffled. Finally got there, but of course it helps if you realise the black pawn is going down and not up!

[andyburnett]

Still not seeing it! This is horrendous

[Phil Thomas]

Phil

Andy,

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put on your board

White Pawn on h6
White king on h7 or h8
Black king on f7


Which I'm sure you'll recognise as a well known drawn ending.

Black wishes to play.

1..Nf8
2 h7 Ng6 Mate.

If Nf8 is check ...it doesn't work because

Knights can't lose a tempo while the white king shuffles between h7 and h8.
Nor can the Black king - can only move between f7 and f8
So half of these are drawn and half are won.
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[andyburnett]

Phil

Andy,

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put on your board

White Pawn on h6
White king on h7 or h8
Black king on f7


Which I'm sure you'll recognise as a well known drawn ending.

Black wishes to play.

1..Nf8
2 h7 Ng6 Mate.

If Nf8 is check ...it doesn't work because

Knights can't lose a tempo while the white king shuffles between h7 and h8.
Nor can the Black king - can only move between f7 and f8
So half of these are drawn and half are won.
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Hahaha! Thanks Phil...that is soooo embarrassing

I hereby request that my grading be slashed at least 1500 points with immediate effect

[Patrick McGovern]

the above analysis looks like my brain during last weeks time scramble

[Phil Thomas]

Pat,

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[Alan Jelfs]

I think the fact that Andy H got this, but Andy B didn't, shows that arbiting improves your endgame.