30-03-2022, 04:19 PM
(30-03-2022, 10:14 AM)Alex McFarlane Wrote: Why don't people actually read what is written.Hi again Alex
David Levy satisfies 16.2.3. So there is no problem there. The changes do not affect that. Andy does not have to propose motions in which he has not considered the consequences.
The motion from A Muir in 2019 did not do what Andy wanted. He mentioned a SCO code. The SCO code is 24 at the front of your FIDE ID. For a variety of reasons a significant number of Scots, some born and bred, do not have a FIDE code starting 24 so under Andy's motion would not have qualified to play for Scotland. I gave 3 examples off the top of my head.
Douglas proposed an amendment which included all of the above exceptions and Matt Turner. If Andy did not understand the amendment then the simple thing to do would have been to say so and reject it. He didn't.
I consider that Douglas's proposal was basically what Andy had intended, however I do not believe that it qualified as a minor alteration so should have been rejected. Clearly it did not achieve what the original proposer wanted.
We are suffering from two motions which were not considered properly either by the proposer or by those present at the AGM (and possibly higher up when accepting the motions).
I think I have said enough.
I'm not sure examples off the top of your head is a good idea. (Nothing against YOUR head :-) )
One was Jacob Aagard, who the motion intended to make ineligible due to him having Denmark registration.
Keti Arakhamia-Grant was down as SCO in 2011 (https://ratings.fide.com/view_source.phtml?code=56980) so shouldn't have been affected?
Even if she had been, is it beyond our capability to discern that the problem being addressed was someone having, for the purposes of representation, TWO nationalities?
The third is a genuine anomaly. DH had the wrong code (ENG was it?) given presumably in error. I expect there are other examples of this error.
This should not send reverberations up through the system. It would suggest that we can't handle our own systems that were put in place by us - to serve us!
And what effect did this anomaly have? The 2019 Champs form that you cited above (post #72) says
"Titles will only be awarded to those satisfying Scottish nationality (SCO) who are also members of Chess Scotland"
So Mr Heron still could not have won the Championship!?
Therefore the claim that the need to correct for this anomaly was a reason for Matthew being regarded by some as eligible is not correct.