Hi Andy.
"On Alex's point about Dougie and himself, yes I agree (which completes the Triumvirate!)"
None of the Triumvirate have engaged with the substance yet.
Still to hear from Douglas, does he agree the motion/amendment was incompetent?
You don't say what you are actually agreeing with, Andy.
Alex says the motion was incompetent but made Matthew eligible anyway.
There is also the elementary logic - how can adding an additional restriction on eligibility end up expanding it? And odd that there is no record shown of any decisions regarding this motion, yet it is invoked in ghostly fashion.
But we discussed this before.
https://www.chessscotland.com/forum/show...975&page=2
You gave this answer here:
"SCO code is 24. That would mean for example, Andrew Greet could not be Scottish Champion. He has SCO designation but has a 40 code (ENG)"
But SCO is the value (the exact text) representing the country 'Scotland' in the Federation field - obviously, the value that appears for along all Scottish players?
The field was specified as the one in question by Douglas in the 2016 AGM motion amendment as 'federation' - for the avoidance of doubt.
The interpretation make no sense - why would you give a name to a (part of) one field that was already the near-exclusive value in another field?
The SCO code has been referred to extensively by officials and members.
If it could mean what you say, then would previous motions and rules based on that not automatically crash?
For example in 2019, was it taken that the SCO code condition on the entry form excluded all the Scots who didn't have 24 at the beginning of their FIDE ID?
And if the 'code 24' SCO meaning according to the Diumverate (I won't assume Douglas subscribes to this non-rational logic unless he says so) were to be used, then Matthew could never have been considered eligible, could he?
I'd especially like an answer to that from Alex, who says the motion made Matthew eligible!
The only time I have seen your suggestion that SCO code might refer to 'code 24' of the FIDE is when it is being used to claim Matthew's eligibility.
Cheers
"On Alex's point about Dougie and himself, yes I agree (which completes the Triumvirate!)"
None of the Triumvirate have engaged with the substance yet.
Still to hear from Douglas, does he agree the motion/amendment was incompetent?
You don't say what you are actually agreeing with, Andy.
Alex says the motion was incompetent but made Matthew eligible anyway.
There is also the elementary logic - how can adding an additional restriction on eligibility end up expanding it? And odd that there is no record shown of any decisions regarding this motion, yet it is invoked in ghostly fashion.
But we discussed this before.
https://www.chessscotland.com/forum/show...975&page=2
You gave this answer here:
"SCO code is 24. That would mean for example, Andrew Greet could not be Scottish Champion. He has SCO designation but has a 40 code (ENG)"
But SCO is the value (the exact text) representing the country 'Scotland' in the Federation field - obviously, the value that appears for along all Scottish players?
The field was specified as the one in question by Douglas in the 2016 AGM motion amendment as 'federation' - for the avoidance of doubt.
The interpretation make no sense - why would you give a name to a (part of) one field that was already the near-exclusive value in another field?
The SCO code has been referred to extensively by officials and members.
If it could mean what you say, then would previous motions and rules based on that not automatically crash?
For example in 2019, was it taken that the SCO code condition on the entry form excluded all the Scots who didn't have 24 at the beginning of their FIDE ID?
And if the 'code 24' SCO meaning according to the Diumverate (I won't assume Douglas subscribes to this non-rational logic unless he says so) were to be used, then Matthew could never have been considered eligible, could he?
I'd especially like an answer to that from Alex, who says the motion made Matthew eligible!
The only time I have seen your suggestion that SCO code might refer to 'code 24' of the FIDE is when it is being used to claim Matthew's eligibility.
Cheers